Allan Watts/Chogyam Trungpa

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8 Responses to “Allan Watts/Chogyam Trungpa”

  1. J.W. Billings 31. Mar, 2010 at 10:52 am #

    a lesson in being here now.
    Trungpa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQMKSqx0XmQ

    I read an interview that that stated that he witnessed Trungpa flicking his cigarette with so much subtle awareness that it put him(the observer) in the moment of here and now for a few days. Trungpa was a great teacher.

  2. Dr. Robert 06. Apr, 2010 at 5:08 pm #

    thank you J.W. for putting up that link.
    I think also that he was and is a great teacher.
    so many contradictions!

  3. J.W. Billings 09. Apr, 2010 at 8:30 am #

    Contradictions , yes. As Suzuki Roshi said, ” It’s not “always” so…”

    Talk about not being present, I noticed my grammar and typos in my previous post. Ha, Oh, well…..

    Spiritual Materialism was a great book by Trungpa. You’ve probably read it. It really packed a wallop for me.

  4. bb 09. Apr, 2010 at 11:29 am #

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  5. Dr. Robert 10. Apr, 2010 at 8:30 am #

    contradictions indeed…both these gentlemen practiced “crazy wisdom” and each had a passion for demon alcohol.
    I love them both.

    “don’t listen to anybody.Decide by yourself and practice madness.Develop courage for the benefit of all sentient being.Then you will automatically be free from the knot of attachment.Then you will continually have the confidence of fearlessness and you can then try to open the Great Door of the Hidden Place”

    Tulshuk Linpa

  6. J.W. Billings 11. Apr, 2010 at 10:43 am #

    Another great teacher that liked to have a drink was Maezumi Roshi. He got drunk one night slipped in the tub and died. Great teacher and trained many great teachers. Both Watts and Trungpa were fond of the Zen teachings. Trungpa and Suzuki Roshi were best friends. I’ve heard many stories about Trungpa coming to teach at Suzuki Roshi’s Zendo drunk and the students being very upset and Suzuki laughing and turning his back on his students telling them they don’t see the teachings.

  7. Dr Robert 11. Apr, 2010 at 6:18 pm #

    JW..
    I think Suzuki was right..the students didn’t see the teaching.
    Still, it is sad that Trungpa had to drink himself to death to make that point.

  8. ed 08. Dec, 2012 at 1:17 am #

    Chogyam Trungpa might have displayed the greatest teaching of all.

    He ate meat, enjoyed sex, tobacco and alcohol (maybe even drugs) but still manifested Awakened Mind throughout all His activities. This is revolutionary. Classic India Yogis meditated, were vegetarian and led celibate lives (so they say) to develop Samadhi and all sorts of special powers. Somehow, all of this seems artificial and contrived. It made “Enlightenment” a fragile mind-state that needed to be cultured, refined and protected. Trungpa was fierce, unpredictable, non-traditional and quite “crazy” in the widest sense. Maybe, this was to show us that Awakened Mind is not dependent on any artifice or anything Religious or Spiritual at all.

    Maybe, i missed the point entirely.

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